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December 10, 2011

Tun Faisal...Ini Benar Atau Fitnah?

Ada sesuatu yang menarik tentang Tun Faisal kali ini. Sama ada ia sekadar kata-kata yang tidak serius - saya tidak tahu. Namun demikian, saya kurang bersetuju dan amat tidak gemar dengan ideologi perniagaan atau politik seperti ini...Ideologi politik seperti inilah yang meranapkan UMNO dan para usahawan Melayu...Saya berharap para pemimpim UMNO, khususnya yang muda berubahlah segera. Jika tidak, kita sudah pun menempah batu nisan untuk diri kita sendiri. Wallahualam. Jas Salleh ada cerita tersebut cuba klik di sini...

6 comments:

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

dalam mailing list kita tak baca dari atas ke bawah, kita baca dari bawah ke atas :)

1st part of the forum

From: Aziz Ramli
> > >To: promuda_circle@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [PROMUDA-Circle] Malaysia's Corporate Troubleshooters
> > >Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:50:22 +0800 (SGT)
> > >
> > >My question is, who are these group of politicians and young
> > >professional who gather at 'senior party leaders' houses
> > >and 'bemoan local politics'?
> > >
> > >---------------------------------------
> > >From Straits Times of Singapore
> > >18th November 2001
> > >
> > >MALAYSIA'S CORPORATE TROUBLESHOOTERS
> > >The new Mr Fix-its
> > >
> > >When Malaysia's business empires became mired in debt, the
> > >establishment turned to a new breed of young Malay professionals who
> > >had qualifications rather than connections, writes Malaysia
> > >Correspondent BRENDAN PEREIRA
> > >
> > >KUALA LUMPUR - They met 12 years ago in the charming university town
> > >of Cambridge, two young men brought together by a low-profile scheme
> > >of the Malaysian government to pluck academically brilliant Malays
> > >from all corners of the country and give them the best education
> > >Britain had to offer.
> > >
> > >They were from Kuala Lumpur, Mr Shahril Ridza Ridzuan and Mr Abdul
> > >Rahman Ahmad, budding lawyer and accountant, deceptively laid-back
> > >and unshakeably confident.
> > >
> > >With a price tag of RM112,000 (S$54,000) each for their three-year
> > >tuition fees, much was expected of them by their sponsor.
> > >
> > >Both delivered first-class degrees, returned home, got married and
> > >travelled along the road of middle-class respectability, built solid
> > >if unspectacular reputations as turnaround specialists of corporate
> > >basket cases.
> > >
> > >Today, they are part of another scheme. Only this time, the stakes
> > >are much higher.
> > >

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

ke-2; u fahamkan konteks;
konteksnya

1. saya tak percaya mereka berdua naik hanya kerana mereka layak, tp kerana mereka kenal some `influential people'

2. dalam politik UMNO yang bersifat patronage ketika itu, itu realiti; dan smpai skrg ia masih realiti; bukan sj dalam politik tp dlm mana2 organisasi

3. saya tidak suka realiti ini kerana saya sendiri adalah org biasa yang menapak naik dari bawah
`even though you perform very well' - still kena crawl sbb saya dan yg lain org biasa tanpa connection


From: penjejak badai[SMTP:badai2001@...]
> Sent: 20 November 2001 03:24
> To: azizramli@...
> Cc: promuda_circle@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PROMUDA-Circle] Malaysia's Corporate Troubleshooters
>
> I do not know about others, but it is a cheap bull to make a statement that one can progress very fast without connection. Business is about knowing people, and about good networking. If people do not know you, people
do not deal with you, even though you have the best qualification Harvard could offer you. Politic is also about knowing people. See yourself, how many influential people that you know could push you further up. Some of us do not have any.... So even though you perform very well in your job, you still have to crawl the corporate ladder to meet your American Dream.

tun

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

3. Ahram Tan Sri Sanusi bersetuju dgn saya, dia anak politcian, dia tahu; tapi dia ada pandangan lain ttg pentadbiran kerajaan ketika itu -

Assalamualaikum and Good Day,

Saudara Tun. Though what you say is true, I think you should give Aziz
credit for having a critical outlook in this case. I am also a bit
uncomfortable with the idea of young politicians and professionals bemoaning
local politics having much impact, though for different reasons.

In the first place, usually such 'bemoaning' is not the main reason why
things happen, though the young 'bemoaners' may wish to believe it is!
Despite the opinion of some, there is still a lot of room in Malaysia for
people to climb the ladder, either in business or politics. Sure it helps if
you know people up top, but at a certain point a person is expected to
deliver. Those who don't perish, either through the mechanics of democracy,
the markets or the dictates of disappointed elders. Connections can only
help and shield you so much.

What is of greater concern for me is the lauding of this idea that leaders
listen to those who 'bemoan' issues at a personal level seemingly more than
they listen to the people or the realities of the socio-economic system.
This is plain wrong - leaders should certainly listen to the views of more
than a select few, however educated, professional or select these few may
be.

Fortunately, our leaders, at least those who matter, do not listen only to
those who are 'bemoaning' at their homes, but also reflect on the words of
groups of 'bemoaners' he/she encounters everywhere against real situations
and real options. Even whispers from people of influence at high places have
to be evaluated before acted upon, regardless of the credibility of the
source.

So, if any of these leaders who do listen to only politicians and young
professionals 'bemoaning' are worth their salt, they would indeed be making
their decisions on far more than the substance of the 'bemoaning'.

And really, let's not take the shine away from these young hopes of the new
generation. They do have a professional reputation to back them up and they
lack one thing the wonder boys of the past (i.e. Halim, Tajuddin, et. al.)
had... huge loan facilities to take equity in the companies they run.
Hopefully, this lack of equity will help the new generation to focus on
enriching the nation and not themselves.

Thanks and wassalam ...

Sincerely,
Akhram

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

3. saya bersetuju ttg perkara tertentu;

i. ya mmg ada ruang; tp saya tetap tak percaya, apabila seseorang itu naik dengan TERLALU pantas, ia tidak ada kena mengena dgn connection & who he knows -

ii. dan saya boleh namakan sapa ketika itu (jgn lupa saya dilatih di IKD, think tank anwar dan terlibat dgn ISIS juga pd waktu itu)

iii. saya katakan juga - jgn anggap professional itu baik total, krn mereka boleh jd worse enemy


Dear Akhram,

Again agreed with you. I remember some one told me that Halim is an
accountant by profession. So he is a professional. He is a professional, he
had connection, he was lucky, at that time the government did not emphasize
so much on the corporate governance.

However I can name few people who were appointed by some authorities to be
directors of company without proper qualification and experience. They were
purely business connection, or may be on proxy basis. This I find difficult
to tolerate, unless the said individuals are able to deliver to the company
benefits.

Professional or non-professional, it is not the real issue. The issue as you
said, is the capability to deliver, and to avoid from being greedy.
Professionals could be the company worst enemies since they know loopholes,
they could perform `magic', but a simple `headmaster' might not be able to
deliver, just because he does not have adequate knowledge, or just because
he could be easily deceived by others.

Every professionals at our age are climbing corporate ladders now. How fast
do you climb? Could you do that very fast without knowing personally someone
with influence at the top? If you do not know, then I'm very sure that, it
will be at a normal pace, like what some of us are experiencing now.

When you are up there, are you sure you will not be that greedy?

tun

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

dan saya katakan - jika anda sudah di atas (sbb ketika itu saya professional biasa di bawah) - When you are up there, are you sure you will not be that greedy?

kenapa saya tanya? sbb bila seseorang itu sudah dipuncak kuasa, belum tentu dia boleh mengawal diri; saya juga tidak terkecuali - jd jgn dok mengata org lebih sgt; u pun belum tentu klu u berada di tempat dia - itu maksudnya

Tun Faisal Ismail bin Aziz said...

nasihat saya sdr,

1. baca dari konteks yang luas, bukan dr kaca mata sempit blogger dari kumpulan yang sedang berdengki dan mencemburui saya dan UMB :)

2. banyak lg tulisan saya di sana (promuda circle) yang boleh sdr baca dan hayati; prinsipnya masih saya pegang smpai hari ini. ia pedas dan tajam - sbb itu saya dikenali ramai sewaktu aktif di sana, tidak kurang yg sakit hati.

3. err saya naik dari bawah - boleh baca wikipedia tu dan lihat pengalaman2 lepas saya dalam parti - izinkan saya maklumkan sesuatu - saya bermula dalam Biro Pendidikan Pemuda UMNO di zaman Dato Dr Adham Baba bukan dihantar dan diangkat, tp dgn tawarkan diri utk catit minit mesyuarat gerak kerja yg penting, tanpa ada sbrg jawatan.

Saya sentiasa bermula dari bawah, sbb itu insyaallah, saya faham apa yang saya lakukan :)